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 The Companion Guide to ZEITGEIST, Part 1

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You is scary!

I've just turned 70. Here I'm driving down the highway of life with a near-empty tank and no gas station ahead. And to top things off, I've just lost my "religion." Oh well, it didn't do me much good anyway, and for a fact turned me into a stuffed shirt.

Back at the University of Colorado, I was in the first rank of the first wave of New Age nutcases. But in '80 I got converted through a strange concatenation of circumstances. I became a nut on Calvinistic theology. I didn't read the bible much, as it didn't set well with me, but I really admired W.G.T. Shedd's magnificent Dogmatic Theology --which was essentially an 1800-page treatise exploring the complexity of what was and wasn't "free will." Of course without an historical Jesus verifying the bible - - which would include the principles Shedd extracted to build upon -- the whole beautifully spun theological structure reduces to a futile exercise.

I had been "defending the faith" on the internet, but had increasing misgivings and a sense of futility about the message I was delivering. I was like an alienated messenger going about his appointed duty -- having no spiritual zest for the job, with the only reward an occasional smattering of intellectual satisfaction.

A few months ago my nephew and his new bride gave me The Jesus Puzzle to examine. Well, it was a bombshell. That led to other works, and Earl Doherty's The Jesus Puzzle put the cap on it. (Now, I get to read yours!) So, because of all this I find myself free to explore your fascinating web site.

My past experience as a convinced Christian I can hardly account for. I was completely self-deluded. Now the fallacy appears so obvious, but then I was convinced I had the right handle. But rather I had hold of a snake, not the rod. I'm still trying to sort things out. I have had enough experiences to "know" that there is a spiritual realm. Hyperspace is at least a mathematical reality. Something important is there. I'm not particularly anxious about my coming demise ...in that regard I like to quote Woody Allen's observation, to wit: "I'm not afraid of dying ...I just don't want to be there when it happens!" Yeah. That sums it up.

I have many Christian friends who are having difficulty with my apostasy. Many among them are professional theologians, teachers, students, and ministers, and I have great respect for them. They do good and are good at it. I don't desire to take away their life's work. I can let go; they can't at this stage. So I don't make waves….

Now for the real reason for this letter -- even tho it initially took on a life of its own expanding into an unabashed fan letter and life confession.

I'm interested in health and supplements, and all that ilk. I monitor what is going on in the bodybuilding community, and I still work out. Among your reading recommendations (I was surprised to see Atkin's Diet Revolution and Diet for A New Planet sharing the same page.) I was disappointed that you overlooked the Blood Type Diet. In my opinion it is the most important dietary insights ever made. In fact it builds a bridge between Dr. Atkins and Robbins (sp?). D'Adamo has received a lot of flack, but none of his critics appear to have done their homework They all end up with egg on their respective faces. But then I used to say the same about bible critics. Hmm,

Anyway, please check it out: ww.dadamo.com The reader's page is unreal. After two years the archives must include 60,000 responses.

With awe and admiration


From: DM
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:48:44 EDT
To: Acharya S

Hi Acharya

…I had one question for you…: What do you think about the Bible Code? You know the code that they "supposedly" found in the Bible. I have been watching TBN and this guy has a book called "The Genesis Factor," which they say, and I quote, "will blast the bible skeptics to kingdom come." I've heard that one before. Oh and one more thing - I, like others, was expecting an old male scholar... Far from it I might add. I guess beauty and brains can go together (smile).

Acharya, what will it take to help these people see the light? Do you think any thing will happen soon to let the world "know the truth"? It really is sad how brainwashed some people are. I am a member of blackplanet.com It's a site where "blacks" (I put quotations around black because I've never seen a black or a white person in my life) from all over put up webpages and have discussions. Now its like "my" people hold onto this stuff harder than any other "race" out there, as far as I can tell. They have this message board up now where they ask the question, "Is the Bible the Word of God?" It would really trouble you some of the answers that people put up. I'm like, is there any hope? I've referred people to your site. Many find it extremely enlightening; others call you the Anti-Christ, and they say that the "Devil" is very cunning... I'm like Uggh, get a freakin' mind of your own... Some times I try as hard as I can to give them facts about their "Culigion" [sic, and they like robots will spew lines like this - "Jesus loves you, don't wait until it's too late"... "The Devil is out to deceive you..." "You have never communed with God, so you could never know how real Jesus is"... and this one... "The Bible says lean not to thine understanding"… I'm like, if there is one commandment that you guys follow it's that one... lol...

Acharya, just thinking about this is giving me a headache... Later

Hi. You can do a search concerning "the Bible Code," which is basically bunk.


This message is from Faith & Religion on The Black Wall at BlackVoices.com

Forum: the Faith & Religion Forum
Subject: Havin' Doubts about Christ
From: 12sistagirl (12SISTAGIRL)
To: (ALL)
Date: 4/2/2001 9:18:42 PM

Greetings all.

Lately, I've been having doubts about Christ. Not God, not even the Holy Spirit - those I know from not only experiences, but real presence. I feel funny about this, 'cause all of my life I have believed in "Father, Son, Holy Spirit." Yet the last couple weeks, I've been wondering. I've come into much knowledge about "OUR" past, our history. And to be honest, I realize that there is no depths or boundaries that the "white man" in America will not cross to deny US our true history. To deny us of who we are in this world.

With that doubt has come the question of "Has the white man created Jesus Christ to throw us off?" Oh, it's way deeper than that, but overall now I just don't know. I've prayed and asked God to reveal to me the Truth. I want to believe, but I need something to stand on. See, God has moved mountains for me, and the Holy Spirit has intervened on many occasions for me. Maybe I'm wrong, and one of those has been Christ.

But, I need more than just "it says it in the Word." The Word has been manipulated, stretched, pulled, colored, bleached and watered down by the white man. I just can't trust in only the written word.

This was hard for me to admit to myself. Then harder still to tell my husband. I still don't think he realizes how real this is for me. I need some strong people in the Word to help me. I've got to figure this out.

My whole life up to now can not have been based on a lie. In the end, God is the one that's going to have to bring it home for me. And no, this is not cause of the recent hell we've been through regarding our boat. This is not cause we're still climbing an up hill battle.

Help


From: BH
To: Acharya S
Subject: your web site
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:57:29 -0500

Hello, and greetings from a fellow freethinker. I have had the delightful experience of stumbling over your website. Thanks for a great read. While I, in a general sense, agree with you that the Jesus story is a compilation a various myths, there is some solid historical data that an individual by the name of Yeshua did in fact live and function in Judea and Israel in the 1st century CE. See Robert Eisenman, James the Brother of Jesus...

My current studies have lead me into the subject of pre-history, with all that implies, have finished a really interesting book by Rand and Rose Flem-ath, titled When the Sky Fell: In Search of Atlantis... The authors maintain that Hapgood's crustal displacement theory explains the disappearance. The "island" that got lost is in fact Antarctica! Great read and well researched….

Thanks. I have Eisenman's book here. Eisenman attempts to find the historical basis for the figures in Acts. The characters in the gospel tale are for the main part myths, with Jesus a sun god. There were numerous "Jesuses," or Joshuas or Jasons or other variant running about the world at that time, several of whom Josephus, for one, writes about. This is not new information. These Joshuas/Jesuses/Jasons are not the biblical Jesus, who is in reality a very old mythological motif.

I have been aware of the Flem-aths work for some years and recommended a book to Rand called The Ice People, which he read, and which I read as a child. That was a great book. I also have Hapgood's Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings.


Subject: Your Writing
To: Acharya S
From: GS
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:16:27 -0500

Acharya:

I truly respect what you are saying on your page. Though I have known about Christianity's borrowings from pagan religions for some time, I have rarely heard it expressed so well and so forcefully. Few people want to take the issue to its ultimate conclusions as you have. As Graham Nash sings in "CATHEDRAL": "Open up the gates of the church and let me out of here / Too many people have lied in the name of Christ for anyone to heed the call / So many people have died in the name of Christ that I can't believe it all." Especially now when Senator Jesse Helms wants to appoint assistant secretaries of Defense because he "would want to stand with them at Armageddon" - this message needs to get out. How many apocalyptic deadlines must pass before the whole idea is rejected?

I will purchase your book from my home computer as opposed to here at work. I am looking forward to reading it. Your writing style, as evidenced by your webpage, is very readable. I would be happy to come and hear you speak if ever I am able.

Bruce Sterling was right: You have many great and important things to say, and it doesn't hurt that your message comes in such a gorgeous package, something I wouldn't have known or mentioned if you had not included photos of yourself on your webpage.

Thanks! I believe you mean Robert Sterling... I would love to have Bruce Sterling say such a thing as well.


From: RH
To: Acharya S
Subject: Naked Truth
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:14:12 -0300

Hi Acharya, I bought your book and liked it a lot and your website also.... Thanks for all the good work.


From: DM
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:17:02 EDT
To: Acharya S

…that Jesus pic really made those people upset... I think you were doomed to hell about 53 times, if I'm not mistaken (smile).

That's good to know – it pretty much validates what I say on that page. Christianity makes people volatile and hateful.


Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: TQ
Subject: maybe you should add your reference
To: Acharya S

Greetings!

Just for your information:

The real Jesus was really exist BUT:

- His real name was Immanuel

- His birth was just like other children (no miracles)

- No "virgin" Mary

- He was not from David's line

- He never born on December, probably March

- His disciples maybe more than 12

- He had a journey to India and learned about Buddhism (maybe He learned Taoism also)

- He perfected these teaching, and then went back to the Jews

- He never died on the cross. (His friends save him)

- He probably died on Kashmir.

- His trinity actually derived from "The Father", "The Mother", and "The children (all living being on earth)"

- Sometimes "The Father" spoke through his mouth" Paul (the false apostle) and his associate, hated Him so much, so He tried to formulate a new religion called Christian, being an expert of Theology, Paul had mixed old believes into his creation, voila! Christian created, and old traditions saved from the new teaching from Immanuel.

I suggest you to read the Gospel of Thomas and The Himis manuscript.

Thank you…

These are old concepts that have been spun together, but they are not facts. As they say, Jesus is all things to all people. With the New Age tendency to conglomerate everything, this is certainly what Jesus has become, but it is not what he was, which is a solar hero/sun god. Obviously, I have known about these concepts for many years, so you are presenting nothing new – funny how people keep thinking that someone who is so knowledgeable about a particular subject just somehow hasn't heard about such things. Naturally, I have read the Gospel of Thomas – Jesus is not depicted as a historical character; the gospelis collection of sayings and is no use in the quest for the "historical" Jesus. The Himis manuscript seems to be essentially the same as the Notovich text, which is merely a late depiction of a legend carried by Jewish merchants to Tibet. Like I say, Jesus is all things to all people, and the Tibetans, Indians, Japanese and others all wish to claim Jesus as one of their own, through his purported study and life in their countries. It's simply not true. When Osiris was popular, he also walked all about the earth; his tombs were everywhere, etc. Osiris, like Jesus, is an astrotheological motif, not a real person.


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