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To: Acharya S
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:22:09 -0400
I bought and carefully read Christ Con - and thank you very much for clearing the
cobwebs. I can clearly see reality now. What a world! Venus in Libra - Mars in Scorpio - Moon in Cancer
To: Acharya S
Subject: Christ Conspiracy appreciated...
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:39:41 EDT
Dear Acharya S:
I am Belenios Ategnatos a druid of the Druuidica Comardiia Eriutalamonos and of the Kredenn Geltiek Hollvedel
(Worldwide Celtic Faith), among other related affiliations. Among my projects is research into the ancient history
of Indo-European civilization and the one-world civilization, of which IE culture is one of the principal heirs.
You can find an article by me on the website of the American Institute for Vedic Studies, at www.vedanet.com, in
the guest writers section, which will provide some introduction into my work.
I recently found The Christ Conspiracy in the local bookstore. There are parts I
agree with and parts I must strongly disagree with. In any case, it is a very enjoyable work and regardless of
details that may be incorrect, the basic premises are dealt with excellently and will be of great benefit to the
world, I think.
May I respectfully explain some of my disagreements? First, certain of your source books are not reliable. In
particular, "The Two Babylons", which I have on my book-shelf, was written as propaganda by Anglicans against the
Catholics, more or less as part of the anti-Irish bigotry of the time. While some of the information is good, other
parts are either grossly inaccurate or else patently false, as may be expected of propaganda. Hislop's linguistic
arguments (comparisons of deity names) are usually thoroughly wrong, often comparing modern dialects with ancient
languages that are not even related, for example... And many of these arguments or similar ones, are used by you, I
Another area that is most visible to me is your comparison of the traits of Krishna's story with those of the
Jesus myth. I have been studying the Sanskrit literature on Krishna for over a decade, and your comparisons are in
direct contradiction of the actual elements of His story. To wit: His mother was no virgin, he was her eighth
child, the previous seven having been slain by her brother. He did not come to die to save mankind, rather his
death heralded the beginning of this Dark Age that Hindus call Kali-yuga. And he did not die nailed to a tree, but
rather accidentally hit with an arrow by an aboriginal hunter, while under a tree. That detail has a similarity,
but the differences are clear. And again, his death was in no way a good thing, not a benefit for mankind; except
insofar as one of the characteristics of Kali-yuga is said to be that one can relatively easily achieve spiritual
perfection through hearing and chanting the Names of God. which practice is the basis of several major Indian
religions, including Sikhism and Vaishnavism, which is the religion of Vishnu, Krishna, etc, and to which the Hare
Krishna movement belongs. Interestingly, there is clear archeological evidence of Europeans converting to the
worship of Krishna from several centuries before Jesus's reputed advent. Precisely, an ambassador to India of one
of the kingdoms Alexander left behind him converted and erected a monument in India in honor of Vasudeva, which is
Krishna. So, Hare Krishna is in no way a "New Religion" as the Christians like to call it... Not only is it older
than their religion, but it has been receiving European converts for longer than their religion has
Again, aside from these and a few other points of disagreement, I greatly enjoy and appreciate this book. I
intend to recommend it to my colleagues. I may write a review for one the email lists I run; if so, I will
certainly forward you a copy.
The initial premise that Christianity is in reality a brutal and totalitarian dictatorship (as is Islam) is most
important to bring to the attention of those enslaved by it. How sad that our European peoples are enslaved, and to
people who don't even know what to do with a slave. We druids (of the KGH anyway) and other people of the
Indo-European Reawakening, including certain influential Hindus aim to awaken and free those slaves, at least
insofar as they are capable of freedom. This, of course, is a cooperative effort among people of widely different
theologies, from monotheistic to monist to polytheist.
Well, I cannot hope to do justice to the many things I would like to say. Let me just end, then, and say that if
you are willing and interested, I would be happy to communicate further with you, to discuss all these and other
areas of mutual interest. And please excuse me if I have in any way inadvertently offended you.
Satyam eva jayate (Sanskrit: May Truth ever Triumph!)
Thanks for your kind comments and close reading of my book. Regarding Hislop, I used comparatively little of
his work and what I did use was factual. He is anti-Catholic Protestant writer, which demonstrates that my sources
are not just "atheists" and freethinkers. Virtually everyone can be determined to be biased about something, and it
seems like someone somewhere will complain about practically every one of my sources. And, as I recall, I did not
use any of his etymology; if our conclusions are similar, then perhaps it is because they are correct, since we
came to them from independent sources.
Regarding Krishna, naturally, you will not find these traits or characteristics in mainstream texts. I deal
with these in my latest book Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled. I did not make up any of
these characteristics. They are to be found in the works of a number of writers, including Sir William Jones,
in Asiatic Researches. (In other words, they did not originate with the much-maligned Kersey Graves.) Let us
take one example: You say that Krishna "did not die nailed to a tree." And then you relate the mainstream story
that he was shot with an arrow, while under a tree. We are splitting hairs here do we need to just say he was
"arrowed" to a tree? Also, it is clear from the Bhagavad Gita that Krishna could be considered a "savior."
The god Vishnu, of whom Krishna is "the most perfection incarnation," is the preserver or savior.
"Heri" or "Hare," as in Hare Krishna, in fact, means "savior."
In addition, while Krishna's mother, Devaki, was said to have had other children, she was quite evidently
nevertheless considered a virgin. Jones related that the virgin status of Devaki is spelled out in the Sanskrit
Dictionary. I have not yet studied these sources. In any case, we are not dealing with a "real person." The virgin
status of a goddess in this case and many others, the mother of the sun god was said to be perpetual, no matter how
many children she had. Jesus's mother, Mary, was also said to have had other children (Mk./Mt.), yet she remained a
Your last point about the conversion of Europeans to Krishna worship is well in line with what I record in
Christ Con: to wit, Krishna worship is evidently found from Britain to India, centuries prior to the Christian
To: Acharya S
Subject: A question:?
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:43 -0700
In your "Origins of Christianity" you stated that the Gospels were not even written
until 170-180 C.E. I don't believe this is the case, as don't most of the scholars who write concerning it... most
of them believe that the gospels were written in this order:
Mark: 70 C.E.
Matthew and Luke: 80-90 C.E.
John: around 100 C.E.
Isn't the oldest NT manuscript from the book of John, and dates to around 125-130 C.E.?? You can't have an
earlier manuscript of a document that wasn't written for another 40 years
If this is not the case, could you please refer me to the material which you used to gain this
Besides that I found your work to be interesting.... When the writer of Ecclesiastics stated "There's nothing
new under the sun," he was obviously correct!!
I am well aware of the orthodox dating of the gospels. These dates are based on wishful thinking, an attempt
to fit them into the "history." There are bits and pieces extant of the earlier texts used by the
evangelists; however, the four canonical gospels do not appear until 170-180, easily demonstrated by both external
and internal evidence. For one thing, not a scrap of them appears in the writings of any Christian writer prior to
that, not even Justin Martyr. Martyr uses other texts that the compilers of the canonical gospels also likely used.
For the source of this argument, see History of the Christian Religion to the
Year 200 by Judge Charles Waite. Waite essentially proves the late dates, which actually make sense based on
what I reveal in my book: To wit, the first "New Testament" was created by the Gnostic Christian Marcion and
published around 140 C.E. From this text, especially Marcion's "Gospel of Paul" or "Gospel of the Lord," as well as
other now apocryphal texts, were created the four cannonical gospels. I don't find any other work on this dating
issue to be convincing or comprehensive.
If you like that writing, you should check out my book! (I actually use that Ecclesiastes quote in one
To: Acharya S
Subject: age of documents?
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:12:47 -0400
I found your web page to be very interesting. Your footnotes and quotes are extensive. The comparison of Christ,
Buddha and Krishna is amazing; however, in their list of common traits you do not state from where this information
was gathered. I would find the "primary" source documents (papyri, clay tablets, manuscripts, etc) and their
approximate dates very useful in determining who influenced who. Syncretism among ancient cults and religions is
common and few if any attempted to seriously fix their beliefs through rigid doctrine or ecclesiastical structure.
Well, thanks for your time and trouble.
Thank you. Although it shouldn't be expected that I alone should and can dig up all this evidence, I will
continue to keep my nose to the ground and provide it wherever I can. My book Suns of God will do much in
that regard. In the meantime, check out the Christ Conspiracy links.--AS
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:34:42 -0800
To: Acharya S
I just read your argument and thought it was really good. I know it gets frustrating to see how blind some
people are and that they are wasting their lives believing in the bible and not even in themselves. I keep asking
this guy who's trying to make people believe that the bible is God's word, who thinks it's scientific and there's
so much evidence. 'Cause he says there's was evidence of a flood and other things, and I asked him just because
there might be proof of a flood, how can you be sure God did it, and that it was done to destroy the world? He just
keeps saying there's a mountain of evidence, which I've yet to see. A volcano could erupt and someone writes down
that God was angry. This guy would believe it just because he found proof that the volcano erupted. It's really
crazy. I just don't like seeing people being misguided so badly. Or even at all. So I'm really glad with what
you're doing and I hope you keep it up. I know if everyone is going to learn the truth about! the bible, it's going
to take a lot of work. So I'm being patient too. Well, take care.
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:00:21 EDT
Subject: THE UNITED STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: Acharya S
I truly thank you for explaining all of this. We have been living out of phase, quickly decaying. The Code of
the Ancients is the key to this dimension.
To: Acharya S
Subject: From a kindred Spirit
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:18:53 -0400
Your book seems quite interesting and informative. Basically I know almost everything that you have written
about and I am on your side. The despicable things that religions and Christianity in particular has done to
humanity are deplorable.
Your views and my views are basically the same, and I think that we may be able to learn from each other. For
the past 26 years I have been searching for truth. I thought it would have been easy but my searches always end
with another search; nevertheless, I have learned a lot which has changed my complete outlook on life and
I have come to the conclusion that it was man who created god and not god who created
My only intention is to whatever I can to help make the planet a better place where everyone will be able to
grow spiritually. I am also against the preacher and his trickery. As a matter of fact our religious leaders
desires to control at least the government of the USA.
One thing that I could not decipher for a very long time was the fact that women are totally banned from the
management of religious business. When I discovered that the goddesses preceded the gods, then I knew a lot that I
did not understand before.
The history of religious wars and class/sex wars is long and bloody. Men have done everything that they could
think of to keep women contained and suppressed. It is time for all of us who feel this way to unite in the "Spirit
of freeing Mother Earth" from the evils that have continued for countless thousand of years.
It will be a great pleasure for me to receive your reply. Your kind cooperation is greatly appreciated.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:00:52 EDT
Subject: Have you seen this site
To: Acharya S
You have a great web site... Have you seen this site, The
Norwegian Heathen Society? It has a couple of good flash animations.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:47:09 EDT
To: Acharya S
I think your articles are very interesting & so are you.
To: Acharya S
Subject: time well spent
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:05:40 CDT
It's been said that (regarding the Web as addictive) "AOL is a gateway drug to the Internet." I started the day
studying boring-but-career-necessary computer stuff, then I went to your site (with some detours to its links) and
here I am, hours later. But how I've enjoyed it! It's such a pleasure to meet a soul who--like me--pulls back the
curtains as a natural act. I have little patience with nimrods and fruitless debate, so I keep such things almost
all to myself. How wonderful to see it there in HTML!
If time and money were limitless I'm sure I would love to read TCC, but the synopsis and (Amazon) reviews tell
me all I need to know. For years I wondered why Christianity was so popular, and now I know...it's "religion's
greatest hits"! I had to smile (in the Amazon reviews) at the high correlation between negative reviews and poor
Enjoyed your essays and rants, too. Here are my two cents (if the opinions of a stranger are worth even
Declaration of life and freedom...now if we can convince the other 98% of
Oligarchy is not democracy. Amen. As long as adjudication is coercively monopolized
(e.g., one wishes to demonstrate one owes no income tax, and the only courts that exist are ones run by the agency
levying them), I don't know how any government--no matter how enlightened initially--can keep from doing what all
governments have always done: grow ever larger till conquered from without (war) or collapsed from within
One scam after another...this was interesting reading, a fresh way of looking at it. On
introspection, I realized that I'm Scientology-proof (or name any other of the zillions of scams) precisely because
I'm so rabidly cynical. Funny thing is, I don't think of it as cynical, just realistic/analytical. I treat humans'
pitches with the same caution as when I cross the street. No need to be paranoid, but the price of inattention is
too high to refrain from treading carefully. As soon as anyone requests my attention or time or money in any
amount, I do a full analysis, from all angles. Only takes me a few seconds or at most a few minutes to identify
their underlying motives. Too bad it's so difficult for most people to think that way. Alas, if you *can* be taken,
you will be.