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February 2001

Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:37:42 -0500
From: ohgod****
To: Acharya S
Subject: The best E-mail Sorcery you will ever read!

It says that your Christ Conspiracy book is one of the most dangerous books of our times! Obviously, you would have never publishedpi it if it were the most dangerous book of our times since religious fanatics would never stop in their attempts to make it less dangerous to them. (Remember the book Satanic Verses, by Solomon Rushdie.)

By the way, I absolutely loved the Christ Con book, (you know, I always thought that Christ was a supernatural pimp-head since he hung around Mary Maggotline during so much of his spiritual life! (Ho-Ho-Ho)...

By the way, your idea of the Borg as god is a fairly good parasitical description of god's puppetry. If what you mean by BORG as god is that our thoughts and experiences are all part of a god parasiting us because he's eternally bored and wants to see all his old experiences and thoughts in eternally new ways! I agree with that particular notion. (He could even get amnesia and eternally re-run our thought-process insanity just like late-night TV!) Then again, perhaps were an evil Q's holodeck victims! ...

Maybe all of this is more unending boring BS about a personal god with a zest for pond games, but there is one unending fact that really bothers many people! The fact being that with all this scientific eternal energy and fantastic mathematical creativity going on in a place called eternalville, NO ONE can avoid the fact that if a god exists, how could such a being ever be trusted when he obviously has no morals what-so-ever when he designs beings! If we are actually mental servants (or Cartesian finger puppets) of a non-moralistic god caught up in his eternal existence and his replenitude from boredom, then perhaps we are all part of an evil god's toss away children's game. Let's hope not! I pray every night that my after-life has no existence at all when thinking about these issues! Perhaps I and a few other contrarian's are the only lucky ones that can beat god's crusty old twisted plans!...

Loved reading your book: Signed, the one and only Oh-GOD! Creator of the Santa Claus version of the savior!!! (The only truly nice savior to whom no one bows ever bows down to!) See what I mean,  In many ways we are the image of something that bows to moneyistic, symbolic evil puppetry!...

From: BJ
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:29:26 EST
Subject: reading your book
To: Acharya S


I have just begun reading The Christ Conspiracy and find the general idea very interesting, as I find the idea of religious dogma interesting as such a prevalent human characteristic.  I also visited your website and went to the "God doesn't exist" page.  I offer you this possibility(not that you haven't heard this one before, but...)

What if God is not some guy in the clouds (I think we will both agree on this one) but is really just the biggest organism of all?  Perhaps we are inside of God (as we surely are inside of the Universe) and we just can't see. It from the outside in?  Perhaps, like an electron swimming around somewhere in your body, we are each just like that inside of the Big Universe- merely electrons within an infinite system.  I understand that your beef is with religious interpretations of God (as is mine) but why let "them" give God a bad name if God is simply an indifferent, infinite Universe full of beauty and horror and everything in between?  Who cares what the religious zealots think, anyway (not that either of us would if it weren't for their hold on the world)?  Just a thought.

By the way, I have not thoroughly explored your website and have not finished your book, so it's highly possible that you have addressed these matters already.  Anyway, thank you for having the courage to relate your views on this.  I am personally frightened of the kind of people that would oppose it!

I have bandied these concepts about myself. In fact, it's much like what I depict at "What is God?" Most of the time I am considered an "atheist," but I prefer not to be labeled. There is a story supposedly told about Buddha (though I haven't seen it in an "original" text), whereby a fervent theist approaches him, saying, "Oh, Great Sage, I have always believed there is a God. Tell me that God is real." Buddha calmly replied to the man, "God is not," and the believer left in a huff. An atheist heard about Buddha's comment and ran to him, saying, "Yes, I have always known that there is no God!" Buddha replied, "God is." The atheist also left fuming. Buddha's closest disciple, Ananda, then approached the Sage, scratching his head. "Master," said he, "why have you told the one that God is not and the other that God is?"  Buddha responded, "Both saw all one side of the coin and needed to see the other."

From: BJ
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:09:59 EST
Subject: woops!
To: Acharya S

Well, exactly what I thought would happen, did happen!  After I sent my last email, I went back to your website and continued to read on, finding that you basically say what I was suggesting: that God is the Universe, and we are all a part of that intricately woven tapestry.  I must admit that you have more hope than I do on this matter.  I do not believe that we'll ever get our shit together.  Instead I believe, for the most part, that human beings will(mercifully) kill ourselves off with war and disease, and the planet will be better for it.  Wow, I sure am an optimist.

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 03:10:30 -0800 (PST)
From: PB
Subject: Truth be Known
To: Acharya S
Dear Acharya,

I happened to stumble upon your site this evening and haven't been able to leave for hours! This is no small thing seeing as I usually hit the rack at around 9:00 and it is now 3:00 A.M.. Your entire web site is interesting and thought provoking indeed!

I have been a Christian (more or less) from the time I was old enough to hitch a ride on an inner-city street where I was picked up by a Baptist preacher and shortly thereafter converted. Yeehawww, what a ride that has turned out to be.

I sometimes felt inside that something was not right with the whole idea. Probably needless to say, I lived in self-inflicted torture for many years, trying to serve a God that I could not understand. Being no intellectual giant, I figured on faith that it was the Devil causing my confusion in understanding The Truth.  Much could be said for blind faith, but at the moment nothing that bears the mark of goodness comes to mind.

I have since begun examining other religions and esoteric beliefs and have learned much about myself that is truly liberating. Being a seeker, I have come to understand that our methods of extrapolating truth from the human experience are greatly varied and result in just as many various conclusions; therefore, I will draw no line before its time, nor will I judge another human being as good or bad, right or wrong.  Not because the Bible tells me so, but because I don't care for conflict. Besides, what does it do but breed contempt? For me to judge is to cause conflict within myself and others whether I engage it openly or secretly, as surely as the rain causes green shoots to spring forth wherever seed and soil exist. I know this by experience. I must say that on this subject the Bible seems to have it right, regardless of who wrote it, how, or when. Perhaps your thoughts on this differ, I would be interested in hearing them.

Should not our goal be peace, or should it be division sprung from derision or worse, as you know, delusion?  I ask because you obviously are a thinker with a mind to help others educate themselves. My goal is peace and understanding. I do not mean to say that we should not engage in intelligent discourse even though we may or may not disagree; only that we should present our findings logically to the best of our ability while at the same time giving respect to each other's intellect and intuition to judge ourselves, for ourselves. By all means let us discuss, let us contemplate, let us draw on each other in hope that we might come away with mutual regard and perhaps a golden thread or two that we can be weave into our own personal tapestries....

I have found here a wealth of information and source material that for the most part is new to me. It is easy to see that you enjoy the work of enrichment of the mind, for this you have earned my respect.  Contrary to what some of your critics say, I don't believe you are into self-aggrandizement so I will not dispense a bunch of flattering compliments.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. May your path be filled with ever new discovery and your learning never fail.

Best regards,

Hey, sometimes I've got the best "job" in the world - who else gets great messages like these?

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:29:24 -0800 (PST)
From: PB
Subject: Quotes of Founding Fathers (and Other Prominent Americans)
To: Acharya S

I love the eloquence of the Founding Fathers. For instance, "voluptuous debaucheries" and  "To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."

I understand now that I wasted many valuable years in slumber, but I cannot allow regret to keep from what I know must be done NOW. I thank God that I have discovered my errant ways and now enjoy an ever growing knowledge of truth, facts. Realization is a wonderful thing, even it happens late in life. I am happy that we still have the collective knowledge of our Founders and many others I have yet to discover; to draw from, to contemplate.

Again, can't beat this type of message - what a nice guy!

From: RH
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:51:53 EST
Subject: Just found your site & love it
To: Acharya S

I see your mail only goes thru June 2000, I hope you will continue it's quite entertaining.

Keep the non-faith

I've taken a long hiatus - this emails section is a LOT of work!

To: "From Sex to Superconsciousness"
From: MM
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:00:59 -0600
Subject: Quotes of Founding Fathers (and Other Prominent Americans)

I sent the quotes to one of my best friends and in reply she shared with a letter with me that her husband wrote to the rocky mountain news, which they didn't publish:

Melinda Brindley gives us quotes from the Bible that support the idea of a "liberal Christian" (Jan. 30).  Here are some quotes that are not so "liberal."

"Of the heathen round about you, shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids, and they shall be your possession forever." Lev. 25:44

"I formed the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

"I frame evil against you." Jer. 18:11

"I will make mine arrows drunk with blood." Deut. 32:42

"The Lord is a man of war." Exod. 15:3

"For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" Romans 3:7

As the want of space will not allow me to enumerate any more of the Bible crimes, I will sum up the true nature of the Bible: murder, theft, robbery, war, slavery, intemperance, polygamy, concubinage, rape, piracy, lying, assassination, treachery, tyranny, revenge, persecution for religious opinions, degradation and enslavement of women, and much more.

David Shanley

From: AG
To: Acharya S
Subject: John Jackson
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:18:56 +1100

Dear Acharya

There is an article by John Jackson on your site entitled "Pagan Origins of the Christ Myth." In it he makes the claim that Simon was a Semitic god and that Petra was the Egyptian god of the underworld.

I have tried to find evidence of the above but have so far failed. Can you put me on the right track and confirm if what John Jackson claims is true.

Also it has been claimed that the apostle Peter's name originates from the Greek word Petros(Petra) where its etymology is traced back to the Egyptian god Ptah. Is this true or does Peter's name originate only from the Greek word Petros.

I would really appreciate if you could respond.

"Petra" may be the Greek name for the Egyptian god, although it could be a compound: Pet-Ra, Put-Ra, or Ptah-Ra. Petros, of course, was the name of not only Jesus's disciple but also Mithra, "the Rock." In other words, there was a Peter at Rome decades before the Christian era. Regarding Simon, yes, evidently there is a Syrian god by that name, or Saman, or Shimon, or other Semitic variant. For more on the nonhistoricity of Peter, I'm told that Arthur Drews wrote a great book on the subject; apparently there is an English translation of this great German thinker's book. I would also check out the Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins.

From: MI
To: "Acharya S"
Subject: The Christ Conspiracy
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:07:04 +0800

Dear Acharya,

Your book was just what I needed. Thank you!!!

After starting out life as a Catholic, some years ago I ran off and joined an ultra-fundamentalist Christian cult. I managed to claw my way out, though now I am forced to maintain anonymity due to the potential for cult reprisals. After a brief tour of orthodox Protestantism, I ended up somewhat confused. Something just wasn't right. Then I read The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels, and I became interested in noncanonical gospels and Gnosticism. But in so doing I started to realize the depth of dirty dealings in the rise of Christianity. Now your book has removed my confusion, and just as you say, the truth has set me free, but has really "pissed me off"!!!. I am currently reading The Divine Supermarket (love that title!) by Malise Ruthven, and the recent book The Mythic Past: Biblical Archaeology and the Myth of Israel by Thomas L. Thompson. What do you think of Thompson's book? I am faintly optimistic that the cat is at last being evicted from its bag, with more and more academics blowing the whistle on "the greatest story ever sold".

Thanks! Thompson's book contains some great stuff, but I found slogging through the psychological analysis of the myths to be very tedious. As can be seen from The Christ Conspiracy and elsewhere, many myths were astrotheological, revolving around the sun, moon, stars, planets, etc. This analysis of myths is far more interesting to me. Ruthven's book contains some good info regarding the bogusness of Mormonism.

From: JD
To: Acharya S
Subject: just wondering
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:59:02 -0600

You seem to be a very well read person, and have obviously  done a lot of studying on The Bible as well as a myriad of other books. I am I guess a "blind sheep" follower of Christ and believe The Bible to be true.I just wonder about one thing-if what you say is true and The Bible is false, have I really lost anything?  I mean, I live the kind of life that Jesus taught about and die right? If however The Bible is true and you are wrong where does that leave you?

just wondering

Well, this is rather a kindergarten argument, but I'll assume that it is coming from innocence, rather than some snot-nosed apologist kid. If the Bible is false - and it is, as "history" - then you have wasted your life believing a bunch of hooey, when you could have been accomplishing something and/or having fun. You have been prevented from learning about other ideologies, religions, mythologies, cultures. You have spent your time and mind flailing about in falsehood, losing your integrity.  Pretty simple.

Why don't we remove the words "the Bible" and put instead "the Koran" in your last sentences? How would you answer your own questions then? Or "the Vedas?" Etc.?

To: Acharya S
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 23:14:50 -0600
From: AC
Subject: probably too many questions

Hello... I am preparing to query a documentary about the historical significance of the Exodus of the Jews as described in the Bible. The first part, which is historical, is going to describe the history of the archaeological discoveries and how they support or refute the Biblical texts.

My problem and the reason for my email is that I need  help finding out who knows all about these discoveries. I am asking you because I read an article about deconstructing the walls of Jericho. You also had another article by a Gustav Niebuhr.   So I thought you might be able to help me.

Sometimes there exists a divergence been ability and desire and sometimes there is a correlation. The second part of the documentary deals with the significance of the issue. Keeping facts as facts and myths, myth is the goal of the first part. The primary intention of the second part is to document the issues involved in an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement based on a more accurate perception of Israel's national identity.

So I hope you can give me some sort of direction. I am new to this sea of discussion having done all of my past writing about the philosophical implications of infinity or poetry. Neither is so reality-based as is discussing verifiable history, so I hope gain some wisdom and some sense of bearings from someone who is more familiar with these waters.

Thank you for even reading this far.

Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:40:54 -0800
From: LY
Subject: New Testament/Jesus Fraud (HELP!)
To: Acharya S

If there is so much proof that Jesus was a fraud, then why do Christians not pay attention to the truth? I mean, there are documents and pages like yours up online. I was a Christian until I did some investigating, but my friends are too afraid to do that. They even have stopped communicating with me. What is the best way to counteract someone when they tell me that the New Testament is the infallible Word of G-d?  (Note, I still believe in G-d, but not Jesus Christ as G-d).

I can only answer this from a psychological perspective.  These folks have been conditioned since birth to believe in the story.  (A favorite priestly motto:  "Give me a child before the age of 7, and he's mine for life.")  Many of them have a great deal invested in the "faith," as they regularly go to church and participate in group functions.  Also, the "born-in-sin" concept handicaps them mentally from the start, such that they are then compelled to find relief from such a hateful notion.  Then there is fear, the fear of hell.  And greed for heaven.  Also, believing that one has "the right way" makes them feel special and "chosen."  As well as more enlightened than and superior to everyone else, even if they don't have a lick of education.  It's a big ego trip in many cases.

Regarding countering Christian proselytizing, there is no easy answer.  The best you can do is to study the subject.  Besides my website, book, etc., I recommend - many, many people have engaged in debates previously, so you will find good "ammo" there and elsewhere.

From: KA
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:56:37 -0600 (CST)
To: Acharya S
Subject: great website!

I love your website. I'm 22 years old and I grew up in a Catholic family in Wisconsin. I was forced to go to church until I was 18. The circular reasoning of Christianity (or any religion for that matter) baffles me.  "Well, god exists because the bible says so... and we know the bible is true because it was inspired by god"... um, nah, I'm not buying it. I just get so frustrated with people who are self-righteous and declare their love of Jesus all the time, and even say that blind faith is a virtue. What kind of an idiotic world do we live in???

Thanks for the website.

Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:45:17 -0800
From: LY
Subject: "Born Again" (just one more thing, sorry!!)
To: Acharya S

Just wanted to add my two cents again (sorry, but I have to). I read in the " " section that you said you once went through the "born-again" thing for about a month. If that is so, then according to most xtians, anyone who has accepted Jesus, even if they turn from him, can never go to hell. That is just an ironical little bit of info I thought I'd mention. Well, at least that is what the xtians used to tell me. So why are they telling you that you will go to hell? CRAZY I tell you!!...

From: DO
To: Acharya S
Subject: Just ordered your book "The Christ Conspiracy"
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:11:34 -0800

About fifteen years ago,  I came to think that there was no God, but religion still seemed to challenge me about what it is and where it came from.  I came up with one idea; a supernatural being must exist to create the universe.  This idea comes from the fact that whenever we try to figure something out; we do so from our current perspective.  Let me talk about "our current perspective in solving puzzles" first.  I also about the same time that I decided there was not god (the main reason was just a hunch, a feeling), to wonder what is mathematics, how does it come about?  To make a long story short, I've come to see a connection between abstraction(important because philosophers of mathematics like Bertrand Russell thought that mathematics(numbers, space) just comes from  deduction from logic; however, logical discoveries in the late 1800's and early 1900's, seemed to show that logic is made up by us to)  and systematic experimentation....

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