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I would love to here from you...

Well, thank you, cutie!  It's so refreshing to hear from someone who actually got my sense of humor.  I've been called "angry" but those humorless individuals who themselves are angry and thus see anger everywhere. There's nothing formal about becoming a student - just the desire to learn. Joining my discussion group is helpful, as I regularly post there.


Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:35:22 -0800 (PST)
From: AB
Subject: your credentials
To: Acharya S

Who is Acharya S.?
What College or University did she earn her degree or degrees from?  Why are her credentials not listed in the book?

I am willing to agree with several points you make in your book, however for peace of mind I must research your background!

My credentials actually are at the beginning of my book, in the Preface. They are also on my site.  In any case, they are irrelevant. I could be Mickey Mouse - the material is what is important. One would think that the depth and breadth of my scholarship, my knowledge of languages, etc., would suffice without a snooty sheepskin. Don't bite my finger - look where I'm pointing!

BTW, no amount of "credentials" will be enough for many people. I could be God Hisseff, and they wouldn't be able to see.


From: HH
To: Acharya S
Subject: High Sister!
Date:  Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:55:07 -0800

Listen, im a fan of yors {i use mi own dialect}... By the way, i dig the shit out yor thought provoking book "The Christ Conspiracy" Thank Yah God'dess!!

much love, peace & hempiness*


Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:44:01 -0600
From: RD
To: Acharya S
Subject: yo

Hey, I am so glad that I found this site while looking for information about how religions promote abuse against women. Being only 16, I have just recently come to the absolute conclusion that there is no god.

Actually I was so brainwashed from the Catholic cult that I was at first afraid not to believe in a god for fear of being punished. However simple logic put my mind to rest. It's cool to know that there are other people out there that have overcome all the lies. At my school when my friends realized that I did not believe in a god their first response was "your [sic going to hell." However, I simply responded that one can't go to a place that does not exist.

It is discomforting and scary to watch people listening and following the rules of the church. I don't understand how they can believe that crap. Unfortunately we now have a president that does believe in that crap, and will take away a women's right to choose based on bullshit. Just thinking about how unfairly women are treated due to religion gets me pissed off. Once I turn 18, I will take action and bust down any religion that mistreats women especially the Catholic Church. They base their proof that women are evil on Eve. Too bad for them there was no Eve, just a bunch of monkey like creatures. The Bible to me is a bunch of fairytale stories like Snow White. No one can prove that they were actually written not to be children's tales. Your website has further motivated me to help in the destruction of religion. It would be different if religion helped the world but it only helps a select, and enslaves the rest.


From: JZ
To: Acharya S
Subject: Great!
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:24:34 -0600

Great work! Really. Fantastic! I'm surprised I haven't come across your work earlier. Keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to your new upcoming book. Could you please put me on your mailing list? Perhaps put me on Sex to Superconsciousness? Thanks in advance. (Intelligent "and" good looking - what a match!)


Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:31:28 EST
From: TI
Subject: God? Hell? Ha
To: Acharya S

Hello,

I was just reading some of your favorite E-mails, and, truly, they made me laugh so hard.

I'm 15 years old and very much enjoy studying religions. I'm 'Pagan', although sometimes I don't like using a specific word, as such, do describe what I believe. I believe many things. There are to many ideas that go along with such simple words.

Anyways... As I was saying, I very much enjoy your page. I'm currently writing an English report on 'The Life of Jesus Christ' (which is how I came to your page). It's hilarious to find all these wonderful facts, that most of the zealots don't know. My favorite little fact is that Jesus Christ would have been born in (I think) March. God, I wish I were so smart as you be able to convince millions of people I was the daughter of God. Haha.

I've realized, since I began my little 'quest for truth' (as my Dad would say) that ignorant people are usually the first to strike out with their uninformed opinions, (And I don't mean you). In my short life, and the short time I've been searching for the truth, I've been burned (And I don't mean literally), cursed, and hated by these people, simply because they don't understand. I've noticed that because I'm now a minority among religions in my world (where I live) I've become so much more thoughtful and understand when it comes to others of different religions. And I've seen that, especially Christians, they feel this over powering NEED to convert and, it that's not possible, condemn people. The Christian God is ever loving and forgiving, right? Then why's there a Christian Hell? Sometimes I just don't understand the nature of people. I'm sorry this is so long. I just needed to write... I admire you completely, and your work.

Thank you


From: LO
To: Acharya S
Subject: please help set me free
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:27:47 -050

Hi,

I'll try and be brief. I've got an extensive background in Christian religions of sorts. The only one that has me puzzled are the Jehovah's Witnesses; basically, they say that at the time of Babylon when God scattered the people and the languages, that's when the people were adopting stories of the Old Testament (before it was ever written down) and adding to it, which is why we have similar stories from other faiths around the world. So my question to you is: which came first? Or rather who's telling the truth? If I can figure this out, maybe I'll be free from religion and the guilt I constantly feel. Thanks for your time and help on this issue.

When it comes to religion, people basically just make stuff up. I wouldn't pay attention to these assertions. Also, as concerns the guilt and fear, that's the hook the priestcraft has discovered, developed and used for millennia in order to snag your brain (and soul). Hopefully, you can work your way through it.


From: WWW
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:33:37 EST
Subject: A True Talmud?
To: Acharya S

Can you recommend an edition of the Talmud that has accurate translation? I have looked at several translations, and they all look to me like there has been a lot glossed over and much purposeful mistranslation. Thanks very much.

Re the Talmud, I use the Soncino (on CD), which includes many of the otherwise-edited passages. Other than that, I don't know about the quality of the translation. I would also recommend Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion.


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:43:25 -0800 (PST)
From: RG
Subject: I am rather scared by the "One World Religion" concept
To: Acharya S

If authorities are behind this "New Age" or "One World Religion". Then we could be in the mist of a serious holocaust of anyone that falls outside that category. Of course I think given your intelligence and spirituality that you have already guessed this. Amidst all religions there is a hint of truth in it. I suppose that certain Christians will vehemently oppose a one-world government needless to say to them it would be the "Antichrist" who is the head of all of this. Religion and governments have always been around to control and manipulate thoughts of others. So in a sense we've always had "Antichrists" around us always using propaganda to get people to fall under their wing. (I am the source to the truth and the light.) Kind of an irony isn't it. The source of so-called freedom is going to a "church" made by man. I am sure if there is a God who punishes people to eternal damnation it would be those blasted world and religious leaders who attempt to control us.


From: DB
To: Acharya S
Subject: Hi
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:53:23 -0500

Dear Acharya

I read some of your writings about Jesus being similar to gods like Krishna and Hercules and I would like to let you know that some of the things that you have said are false. For example you say in one of your writings that Krishna died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves. That is not true.  Krishna was killed by a hunter accidentially while Krishna was meditating in a forest.  The hunter mistook Krishna for a deer or a rabbit and shot Krishna with an arrow in his foot and Krishna died from the wound.  Also you say that Krishna's mother Devaki was a virgin when she had him.  That is not true because Devaki had children before she had Krishna.

Another thing that you say that is not entirely correct is that Tertullian renounced Christianity.  As I just said that is not entirely correct.  Tertullian converted to Montanism which was a Christian movement.  He was still a Christian, although a heretical one.  Also when you say that he "renounced Christianity" you might mislead someone into thinking that he "renounced Christianity" ( which he really didn't) becaue he thought Jesus never existed or that Jesus was invented by Christians as a combination of other godmen. Tertullian became a montanist because he was pist that the Catholic Church believed it could forgive Christian apostates.  His conversion to Montanist Christianity did not have to do with whether Jesus existed or not.

Another thing that you say which is not true is that:"Like Moses, Krishna was placed by his mother in a reed boat and set adrift in a river to be discovered by another woman."  This is not true.  In reality Krishna was placed in a basket by his FATHER and carried across a river by his FATHER to a woman's house and switched Krishna with a baby girl in the house.  Another thing that you say which is really stupid is: "Additionally, the "Esther" of the Old Testament Book of Esther is a remake of the Goddess Ishtar, Astarte, Astoreth or Isis, from who comes "Easter" and about whose long and ubiquitous reign little is said in "God's Infallible Word."  That's just like saying the words but and butter are related because the word but is found in the word butter.

Another dumb thing that you put in your writings is a list of the different gods that are similar to Jesus.  And in that list you put Quetzalcoatl of Mexico and Salivahana of Bermuda.  The dumb thing about this is that there was no contact between Asia, Africa or Europe for that matter between the people of Bermuda or Mexico at the time of Jesus and there would not be for another 1,400 years.

One of your websites is listed as www.truthbeknown.com  so why don't you start speaking the truth.

And they call me angry! Phew! That's a whole lotta false, dumb and stupid thangs I've done thar - yeehaw!  Actually, you are a perfect example of "a little knowledge being a dangerous thing." You are obviously more knowledgeable than the average believer (and just as arrogant, to your credit).

I am well aware of the mainstream, orthodox Krishna story. My book is referenced - perhaps one should check out the sources of my assertions before proceeding to present well-known, mainstream information. As it should have been clear, I have dug deeply into the matter to discover info that is not well known, such as the pertinent characteristics mentioned. Like Christ, Krishna was essentially a sun god; the sun god is annually crucified. The story is also reflective of a human sacrifice ritual, which took place abundantly around the world, including in India.

The Tertullian issue I don't consider to be all that relevant; I certainly didn't have the space to go into a long history of Tertullian. From the sources I read, the impression was given that he renounced Christianity, whether or not you wish to call it Orthodox Christianity.

I am also aware of how the Krishna reed boat tale is depicted in the texts; the movie version of the Mahabharata presents it exactly as stated; there must be a reason for this. It is splitting hairs, since the idea is that he was placed in a basket, into a river (whether or not carried by someone) to save his life.

In any case, my book Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled addresses these issues, including Krishna's virgin birth and much more. You are apparently unware that Mary also was depicted as having other children. Yet, she remained a "perpetual virgin."

Re Ishtar, before you call anyone stupid - which it should be obvious I am not - you might wish to study a subject more closely. You appear to have read a few encyclopedia articles here and there and have thus deemed yourself an expert. Indeed, the story of Esther and Mordecai is that of Ishtar and Marduk, representing a rehash of a Babylonian text by the Jewish priesthood while they were in "captivity."  Again, perhaps before you start slinging epithets you should dig more deeply.

Re your point concerning Mexico, the fact that these stories are found around the world is an indication that the mainstream paradigm that you so mindlessly parrot is erroneous, and that there was contact many years before the Europeans invaded the Americas.

Instead of being a wiseass, why don't you attain wisdom?


From: DB
To: Acharya
Subject: hi again
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:25:25 -0500

Those pictures of krishna crucified and Hercules carrying the cross are pretty pathetic.  Did you draw them yourself?  They don't look like anything from Indian or Greek art.  On your website about your christ conspiracy, it says that the book is scholarly.  It's not real scholarly to lie to people.

And here you go again, presenting false witness (you're obviously a Christian, despite attempting to hide it for some reason).

No, I didn't draw those pictures myself.  They are referenced in my book.

As they say, the pot calling the kettle black.  Bibliolaters believe in a spurious book, but must go around calling everyone else liars.


From: KW
To: Acharya S
Subject:  r u crazy
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:30:14 -0500

christians didn't put jesus instead of the sun. the meant jesus to be the "son" of god. maybe historical reference might have mispelled. hello!! we now of days of typos. and another thing...it didn't just origin...its comes from the god of the jews who has been recorded to be believed in when the first civilitations were around. how many religions do know about that have lasted this long? none, thats what i thought. this book is a joke...it degrates your savior...you better take into knowledge what here your for anyways.

Okay, this is the first of the next three from this pathetic soul. This girl, btw, is a reflection of the American educational system.


From: KW
To: Acharya S
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:44:02 -0500

another thing....if you want proof that christ exists....read about a roman scholar named josephus...he was alive and wrote about christ...thallus and phlegon, also roman scholars, witnessed the darkness at noon when jesus died. after his death, over five hundred winess saw him and which 100 hundreds wrote about. many people saw his miracles, and if your were to read the book of acts, the greeks heard about christ and called him hermes because they thought it wuz there god, but the apostle paul changed their minds.

Trotting out old canards, young one? They're teaching you well in parrot, er, bible school. For your edification and that of others, these "references" have been thoroughly discredited for centuries. You may find abundant arguments against them at my Christ Con links.


From: KW
To: Acharya S
Date:  Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:19:14 -0500

i have one last thing to say...i have been investigating your case of horus being the oringal form of jesus.. and horus father was not seb...your stories are all wrong and you are leading people in a bad direction....

Gerald Massey, step aside! You've met your match - someone who can read two paragraphs in an encyclopedia!

My dear young one, if you really wish to study a subject, you need to actually study it, not make a cursory examination ("investigating!") and then think you know more than anyone else. Your messages are barely comprehensible, yet you apparently think you are omniscient.

Not that you are really interested, but I will explain this one point to you: Horus and his "once-and-future" Father, Osiris, are interchangeable, as I state on my site. Osiris's father is SEB. Horus as the Osiris is the son of Seb. As I say, one needs to actually study a subject, rather than reading one encyclopedia article.


To:  "From Sex to Superconsciousness"
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:26:25 -0800 (PST)
From: JM
Subject: Re: r u crazy

with literate, articulate criticism like this, how can we argue?


To: "From Sex to Superconsciousness"
Date:  Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:22:16 -0800 (PST)
From: CF
Subject: Re: r u crazy

See now ya'll done got it all wrong.  This kind woman was speaking in tongues.  She must've had a piss poor teacher because it was a really lame attempt.

Here's how it should go.

Yasheedeedeedushee dedushundaidee deedububba bushedeedeeic cupdeedudoshedee deeblablabla Whooo Glowree dadadashedee dadadashanana

Translation:

Thou knowest thats the Lord thy God is not the Sun thou canst know I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end. Thou shalt drink the wine of my wrath to it's fullest measure lest thou believe that I amidst the living God and nots the dead one.

Now that's much better isn't it?

Yuh silly blasphemers.


Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:42:38 +0800
To: Acharya S
From: KB
Subject: The Jesus Myth

Dear Acharya

I am fortunate that I was not poisoned with religion from an early age.  By the time I had any substantial exposure to the pathogen I was old enough to see it for what it is.  Fear, ignorance and superstition.  Utterly ridiculous and unbelievable.

Unfortunately I was still under the influence of the church in that I too was led to believe that, although in my opinion he was not the son of god, Jesus did exist!  The church has been very careful to only allow a very limited range of thought on this topic.  If you take Jesus out of the equation by proving him to be just another mythical godman, then the foundation stone of Christianity is destroyed and the religion can not survive.

I am very glad I stumbled across a link to your site on Slashdot recently.  It was in a discussion on the final mapping of the human genome.  The story was that the world media missed the most important point in all of it.  Charles Darwin was right, and evolution is fact!  The argument went on to religion and some argued that Jesus did not intend to start a new religion but reform Judaism, then someone made a post to the effect of, 'All of your arguments assume that Jesus was real but not necessarily the son of god.  Who said he existed at all?'  Followed by the link to your origins page.

In the past I have been prepared to tolerate Christians and their illogical beliefs as long as they left me alone, even though some of the most horrific crimes against humanity have been committed in its name by its most pious followers.  Now that I have read your work I believe that the single goal of free thinking people everywhere should be the eradication of the disease called Christianity.

The most extremist of the Christians will never see the truth.  There are none so blind as those who will not see!  Fundamentalist Christians live in a state of perpetual, selective blindness and consider anything like this to be just a test of their faith.  The more you prove them wrong the more fervently they believe.  They are beyond help.  It is just a pity that they insist on perpetuating their own illness by poisoning their children's minds from the time they are born, so that by the time they are old enough to make a decision for themselves, it has already been made by their parents.

There is hope for many though.

On another subject.  Some of the southern, Christian extremist states of the USA tried to ban the teaching of evolution as FACT in schools and replace it with "creation science".  What do you think of a law suit to have evolution taught as FACT and creation taught as MYTH in those places?

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