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July 2001

From: JS
To: Acharya S
Subject:  John Shelby Spong
Date:  Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:39:18 -0700


Hope you are doing well and have had success with your book. Yesterday, I read a book called Why Christianity Must Change or Die by John Shelby Spong. Have you read this book? I would be interested to hear your opinions.

Spong basically agrees that the Biblical Jesus is a construct of older myths. But rather than dismiss Jesus [as not having existed, he wonders if a man existed that had such a strong impact that men began writing supernatural "stories" about him.

Thanks for the comments.  I have not read any of Spong's works, but I've seen him on "Politically Incorrect" and enjoyed his crusty old erudition, particularly when he was giving a verbal spanking to this dumb young Christian twit Bill loves to have on.

The theory you're positing (via Spong) is called "evemerism," and it's an old proposition that I've known about for many years. I address it in my book The Christ Conspiracy and show where it is incorrect.

From: SM
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:15:36 EDT
Subject: comments
To: Acharya S

I feel that your internet page entitled Environmental Statistics was great.  Knowing that over 15 million children die of starvation while 9 million die of dehydration or contaminated water inspires me to realize that I have spent so much money on video games, movies, and other forms of entertainment that could be used to buy a lot of bread, which is so much important than my entertainment.

When I graduate from college, I would like to spend a lot of money on the malnourished people and those with diseases instead of getting married and bringing children into the world. I deplete more than enough of the environment just by surviving, so I don't want to bring another child into the world to add to the problem, especially since their are already people alive today that need resources but don't get enough. Also, I don't feel comfortable with the idea of getting a woman pregnant. I don't want to cause anybody to go through those 9 months of puking, suffering labor pains, and going through the pain of delivery.

In your page Nuke the Family, you stated that marriage is religious institution that gives men a permit to abuse their wives. As few as they are, there are matriarchal marriages.  Also, people worshipped goddess and gave women more equality over 10,000 years ago and beyond.  I would think that the first marriages were a lot more gender-equal than those of today.

I do agree with you that there is way too much abuse against women. Although I am an 18-year-old male, I still felt a desire to do a report on spousal abuse for sociology class. Although I included statistics regarding abuse against men by wives, 99% of the essay was meant to raise awareness about how horrible women are treated. Statistically, 1/3 of all women 18 and over in the US have reported physical abuse by their husbands or boyfriends. This just includes those women who reported. Most women who suffer such deplorable violence probably don't tell anybody, especially the cops, because they are afraid of suffering worse violence or they blame themselves for the violence. I bet that the majority of all married women in the world suffer from physical abuse at some point in their life. Wives are burned in India and circumcised in many Muslim countries.

In your religion section, you had essays regarding the downfalls of Islam, Christianity, and Hinduism. I am a former Hindu who has studied Hinduism somewhat thoroughly. I feel that you may want to include an essay on the barbaric nature of Hinduism. The caste system and wife burning in India are the brutal consequences of Hinduism. Also, Hinduism has influenced Nazism. Hitler believed in Aryan racial supremacy. The original Dravidian Negroid inhabitants of India were wiped out and replaced by the Aryan invaders just like the Native Americans were wiped out and replaced by the Spanish and Portuguese. Aryan is the Sanskrit word for racially pure, although it was derived from Iranian.

Although I was brought up Hindu, I know more about Christianity than any other religion.  I have read the entire Bible.  Like you, I believe the Bible is a bloody, male chauvinist, hateful, oppressive book that has lead to the worst atrocities in history.  During the 1500s, about 150 million Native Americans were massacred because they didn't convert to Christianity.  This is about one third of the world's population at the time.  This does not include the Inquisitions, Crusades, Holocaust, genocide of Australian aborigines, deaths during slave trade, and other Christian atrocities.  If the Catholic Church had the power today that it had back then, billions of people would be killed.

Thanks for the comments.  Nice to hear from a fellow traveler - and such a young one to hold such profound thoughts.  (Must be Indian.)  Carry on in your noble cause.

From: MA
Date:  Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:43:34 EDT
Subject: You are not alone
To: Acharya S

… Have you ever appeared on any talk shows or do any lectures?… I don't have any problem with my belief or the lack thereof. I come from a very religious family and background, and as a matter of fact I'm a preacher's son. You can imagine the courage I had to have to stand apart from them…. I just love great minds, and I am convinced that you have one. I love to consume knowledge, and you seem to have plenty of it. And as I mention I want to publish a book also -your knowledge would be an asset.

Since getting publish and being renowned as you are have you ever had to fear for your safety or received any threats? Also, I'm wanting to know whether finding a publisher is going to be hard when dealing with the subject matter.…

I don't particularly feel too much fear.  Now and again.  Mild threats here and there (unless you consider hellfire and eternal damnation more than a minor threat).  Obviously, the fact that you ask shows what a well-deserved bad rap religion has!  No, it ain't easy to get a publisher, with any book.  The competition is fierce.  The vast majority of authors will barely see any money, much less live off of it.  Practically no one makes a living off it - a very rare lucky handful.  So that's what you're facing - nothing is as glamorous as it appears, eh?

From: RH
To: Acharya S
Subject: found the "Religion is a Mental Illness" page
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 02:40:44 -0700

Hello Acharya:

I had just discovered this site and it was funny timing.

Since I read your book, and many other books on the subject of religion and it's myths - I have grown so much, but it is frustrating in a way.

When I deconverted in April - I have indulged in continuous study - and now I look around my world and see that I am contending with something disconcerting.  Everywhere I turn Christianity is woven into the fabric of my external world.  I have constant reminders that I once was an ignorant person.  I am atheist now.  So often I want to interject my opinion when I hear people talking in that feathery born again manner about their spiritual Jesus.

I was just in a chat room (and I don't visit chat rooms often at all) and lo and behold they were talking about Jesus.  One woman was telling the other that it was good her husband got saved before he died.  HOW MORBID!  Anyhow...I couldn't help myself and my first words in that chat room were "Matt. 7:21 or Acts 2:21 - which is it?"  I told them to read the Old Testament to find out how nice their god really was and to begin with Hosea 13:16 and 1 Samuel 15:3 for starters.  Then I left the chat room frustrated and started surfing the net for more info - then found this page on Religion is a Mental Illness.  Thank you for putting that there.  It is nothing but the truth - so help me without God! I will have to learn how to live in my new world, where I feel like I am on the outside looking in now.  I never realized how infiltrated our society is with the Christian Myth.

Have a nice night and thanks for putting such good info out.

From: TR
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:23:49 EDT
Subject: kicking
To: Acharya S

Hi Acharya:

I'm glad to see that you are progressing so well with the project. It sure takes time. I'm about to finish The Eyes of The Sphinx which is a fiction about what prophets of the five world religions say to one another when prompted with questions by a young woman. It should be out in August/September.

Please include me in your mailing list so I can follow you progress and subsequent publication.

Your fan - Best,

Psst!  Got a minute? …check out my newly published novel, Emily and the Arabic Letter. Enjoy

From: WD
To: Acharya S
Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:5:20 -0700

I'm an admirer of yours. I've read your book and most of the material on your website. Your work has been of great benefit to me in my ongoing effort to get my mind cleaned up.

From: WH
Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:20:19 EDT
To: Acharya S


…I don't know if everything you write is based in truth, for the truth is buried in 2000 years of camouflage, but it does surely make sense and most times, that is all that is required.  The Bible has no basis in sense or reason and therefore qualifies your thesis and disqualifies its own.  Never stop thinking and by all means, never stop writing.  The world of thought requires it!

Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: JL
Subject: Interesting Site...
To: Acharya S

Just so you know, I haven't read your books yet. Just found the site tonight and will be headed to Powells after work to take a gander.

I tend to be more than a glass is half full kind of guy, I'm more of a "Hey, there's a glass? There's something in it? Cool..." Kind of guy. I'm wondering if the parallels between the Christ story and ancient mythology that you mention are intentional (heck, even if half of them are intentional) does it necessitate that it comes from an evil conspiracy set to delude and enslave man?

Sure that could be the end result of it, but do you suppose the folks who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke and John set out to psychologically enslave the world?  They took steps to hide their sources, just as those who built the pyramids did. Suppose instead of a conspiracy of suppression of knowledge it's a conspiracy of the preservation of knowledge. By casting myth in a new form they have given it new and everlasting life….

Thanks for the comments.  The parallels exist because these gods basically represent the sun, which was viewed as the most visible proxy of deity.  I have no doubt that those who wrote the gospels were members of a priestly school, well studied in priestcraft, and knew well what they were doing.  Actually, I cover this to some degree in The Christ Conspiracy.

From: WH
Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:41:35 EDT
To: Acharya S


...The spoken word is what we babble, but the written word is our truth and legacy!  Thanks for yours.

From: MM
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 01:53:19 EDT
Subject: New Book
To: Acharya S

I want to know when you new book Suns of God will be available?  I would very much like a copy.  Please tell me when it will be available.

Probably not until sometime in 2002.  Thanks for the inquiry.

Date:  Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:  True Believer
Subject:  Interesting
To: Acharya S

I read your some articles on your site on Islam, and I wanna show you something.

In the last link, do you think the Quran is made up?  Something made and unchanged from thousands of years ago are true today.

For example: Scientists just found out mountains have roots, whereas in the Quran it was mentioned thousands of years ago.

Tell me what you think.

As they say, even a broken clock strikes the right time twice a day.  Human beings have had scientific understanding in many areas for thousands of years.  Just because they wrote some of them down in a book does not mean "God" (or Allah or Brahma) is the author.

By the same criterion, we could easily prove the Indian sacred texts such as the Rig Veda to have been written by God, since they record much natural phenomena as well, including not only astronomical phenomena but also the Saraswati River, which disappeared 5,000 years ago and was not rediscovered until recent times, with the aid of satellites.

From: RP
To: Acharya S
Subject:  God as two genders
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:37:15 -0400

Although I believe in God or Creator, I usually try to avoid  referring to It as either gender. An all male God wouldn't have the first clue to understanding the nature of a woman, therefore having no reference point in creating one. The argument against an all female God, or Goddess, could be that since certain species of life have already proven that procreation without a male is possible, it would be unnecessary for Her to tolerate the male race after all these eons. And if she were only joking, one would have to ask how she could have been so mean as to play such a cruel joke on her own kind…. So, my theory is that if a Creator capable enough to create something so overwhelming in size, complexity, and order as the universe exists, then creatures as small and fragile as ourselves would have no ability to even begin to understand the makeup of such a being, let alone confining it to male, female, black, white cat, dog, tree, fish, etc. God would pretty much have to be all.  But my biggest question is that if you dismiss a creator, you have to dismiss survival of the personality, being as the surviving soul would enter some spirit realm. If you have any realm populated by intelligent beings, it stands to reason that there would be a governing body of some type within that realm. As with any type of governing body, it eventually will climb a chain of command until it reaches the "top".  In this spirit realm, that 'top' in itself would constitute God.  And without any survival of personality, or  a leader of order presiding over All things, isn't it rather sad to think that Hitler nor bloody Mary never paid for their crimes?  But then again, to their way of thinking, no crime was ever committed.

Thanks for the comments.  In Hinduism and other ideologies, "God" is not only creator but also destroyer and preserver.  It really can't be any other way, if there were such a god person.

Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:42:10 -0500
From: JS
Subject: Buddhism's "bloody past"
To: Acharya S

I write for [a major newspaper. I'm doing a piece on Buddhism and I'd be grateful if you could give me some references for Buddhism's "bloody past." I do know about Tibet, Sri Lanka and Japan. If you have any other concrete examples, let me know. I'll credit your contribution.

Many thanks for your consideration -- and your intriguing website.

From: DD
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 02:24:51 EDT
Subject: hello
To: Acharya S

how about before you go telling people the bible isn't true you put the whole verses up there? in most cases, the bible isn't taling about stuff in that context, especially in the bible contradictions page, if you would look at the full verse/section, it has nothing to do with what you're trying to prove.

From: JR
To: Acharya S
Subject:: Environmental Stats site
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:43:16 -0700

...Thanks for your work educating the masses.

From: JW
To: Acharya S
Subject: christ
Date:  Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:39:50 -0500

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